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From:
Scott Burger
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Date:
Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:44:16 -0500
Subject:
[idm] nightclubs
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quoted 71 lines No. You are not getting it. The problem is that some of these new regs> No. You are not getting it. The problem is that some of these new regs > will be directed at all > clubs, regardless of their past safety record and ownership. In > Richmond, for > instance, they recently (but before recent tragedies) passed a law > that says > all venues must pay for an off-duty police officer per 100 people in > attendance. > Also, the City Manager is allowed to shut down any venue at any time > for any > reason. > Now, after these recent tragedies, there is very little way > politically to > fight off unjust regulations. Just like with the War on Drugs and the > War on > Terror, 'public safety' will allow the authorities to do whatever they > want. > Great White's idiocy may cause safer clubs, but their actions may also > cause > more clubs to go out of business along with less music and freedom. > > > > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:02:39 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> > Subject: Re: [idm] Nightclubs in trouble > Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030224225910.0152b838@mail.eggytoast.com> > > At 10:10 AM 2/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> I am concerned for nightclubs. Richmond, whose conservative city >> fathers >> already hate nightclubs, had its daily paper run an editorial cartoon >> with >> Death waiting to pay a cover to get into a nightclub. Combine these >> latest >> tragedies with some of the already draconian, anti-youth laws going >> into >> effect and it does not take a genius to see that this industry is >> under the >> gun. Its too bad. Its a real shame, because with file-sharing and the >> major >> corporate labels losing tons of money (and not being able to pay all >> their >> lawyers), independent live music was poised to take on more stature >> up to >> this point. Now everybody is going to have to pay for more security >> guards >> and sprinkler systems. > > My goodness, did you just say that sprinkler systems are stupid? > > These clubs should be equipped with this sort of crap already. Few > other > businesses are able to get away with it, so why should nightclubs be > excepted? All modern movie theaters, even retrofitted ones, have > clearly > marked, easy to access exits in case something happens, and a good > sprinkler system to protect from fires. And the row system > implemented in > theaters is MUCH worse in panic situations than a rather open > nightclub. If any other public facility was operating in the manner > that > this nightclub was, they'd be shut down or fined heavily. The > nightclub > chose to disregard the rules, and now people are dead. Sounds like the > owners have the problem, not the government. > ------- > eggytoast.com > ------- > coming soon: eggtastic.com
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